Here's an interesting Facebook comentary:
The Commentator posted:
"TX Governor Rick Perry called the nation to prayer... thanks for that stand governor!"
LEZ: that's one wise governor!! ;-D
CG: Inappropriate for a state governor to call for religious observances of a particular type in a country where our government, of which he is an official, is mandated to maintain separation of
OA: he is encouraging prayer, not enforcing. separation of church and state is to prevent from the enforcement of a way of belief. in this country we have freedom of speach and expression and as an official of such a country he has that right to voice and encourage people to pray.
CG:
In his capacity as a private citizen he has, of course, complete freedom of expression. As a state governor, he has undertaken to represent his government, which mandates separation of religious matters and state matters. This is not and must not ever become a theocracy, Christian or otherwise. Calling for prayers in his capacity as a state official is highly inappropriate.
OA:
then is the president wrong in saying God bless america?
CG:
OA... In my opinion, yes he is wrong in saying that in his capacity as President of the United States. Highly inappropriate for an official of the United States government. Attempts to introduce religious statements and orientations into our government should be vigorously resisted at all times.
CDS:
Actually separation of church and state is not in our Constitution, it came from a letter written by Thomas Jefferson. Separation of church and state means almost the opposite of what the founding fathers meant when they used that term. The first amendment was put in place to keep the government from forming a national denomination.
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The Commentator:
Yes. government officials are there to represent the people! and over 80 percent of Americans claim to be a christian and more than that believe in God. Funny thing is, when a government official takes a stand like that that under 20 percent get upset and angry. but when Obama did the first Gay celebration at the white house after he got elected, everyone thinks its fine and dandy. muslims are bein allowed to have their prayer time at schools and judges are tryin to ban a simple prayer at a graduation. now thats twisted.
OA
agreed bro!!
OA:
mr CG, people always believe something. whether islam, hunanism or christianism etc. and it will reflect on what they do or say and what they support in the government as officials. as long as they dont enforce it on others,vthey are not uniting church with state. when you eliminate all christianity to replace it with humanist idealism, you are just chabging the beliefs. you are not in any way ridding government from religion. this nation was founded largely on biblical principles and values. and they still influence our culture. humanisim had become more popular and is trying to replace christian values for humanist values.
o OA:
where there is freedom, we have to also learn to accept eachother. freedom doesnt mean we dont make anyone uncomfortable, like some people seem to think. and encouraging america to pray, is not in any way hindering anyones freedom. infact he is setting an example to be bold and strong about our beliefs. like the ole country song says " you gotta stand for somethin, or you will fall for anything"!
CG:
Sad for believers in the intent of our founding fathers to see young people, in the name of one religion, distorting a key principle on which our country was founded. Some of us will continue to fight the infusion of Christianity into our government, which is intended to remain secular. I've traveled in countries where religion is heavily mixed up with government, and believe me I am not impressed. Follow your religion as you wish, but keep it OUT of our government please.
OA:
i completely agree that government should not in any way enforce a religion. when religion rulled the world, it was called the dark ages. forcing anyone into anything is unchristian in itself. the right to believe what you please and how you please, was given to
man by God. but that does not rid mankind of suffering consequences of bad choices.
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OA:
mr CG, i dont want you to take me wrong. i dont have anything against you and i appreciate you expressing your conserns. you challenge us and help us rethink what we believe and why. it is something many people dont do and is part ofvthe reason why we are where we are. people dont know where they stand and are blown in every direction that the wind blows.
OA:
what many people dont realize is thag the freedoms we enjoy in this nation are a direct result of people following biblical princoples. and when we turn away from God, the source of the freedom we enjoy, the freedom we want the world to share, we will loose more and more of our freedom and we dont even notice it.
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OA:
as a follower of Christ and as an american my goal is to live my life out loud. in a way that my actions and everything i do points to God and the high calling He has given man kind. to love God with all our gut mind and heart, and our neighbor as ourself. by doin so i will be busy making a difference instead of hammering down on those i disagree with. when you put others down you go down with them.
Our country was founded on Christian principles. Recent secular humanists have tried to rewrite government school textbooks in an attempt to leave God out. "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness... And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes, and our sacred Honor." The Declaration begins and ends with a statement of faith in God.
CG:
Hey people... Don't get me wrong. I don't agree with most of you, but it makes the old man HAPPY that you are thinking, contributing, experiencing, growing. When I am gone, everything will be up to you and your generation for a while. Keep on keeping on. Stay in the fray. :=))
OA:
i can promise you right now that i will give God and fellow man no less than my best. there is no other way to live! :)
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CG:
I have many secular humanist beliefs. I also have some deeply held spiritual beliefs, not of the Christian variety. I am a citizen of the United States, a nation the government of which has from the beginning had, in the words of Thomas Jefferson, 1802, "a wall of separation between Church & State". As a citizen my taxes help support public schools operated by our government. I do NOT believe Christian concepts of God should be taught in our public schools, any more than should Buddhist concepts, Muslim concepts, or any other religious concepts. If you want Christian concepts to be taught to your children, then private schools are widely available where that is done, and because we have freedom of religion in this country you are free to send your children to those schools.
OA:
it is impossible to not teach a way of belief. like science for instance. it is either evolution or creation. school teach evolution cuz God was kicked out of schools in the "attempt" to not teach "religion". but really they just swiched from christianity to atheism. which is sad in my opinion. nobody can disprove God!
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OA:
even Charls Darwin, at the end of his book, Origin of Species, acknowleges that there is a Higher being from which all existance came from.
DB:
or homeschooling!
I don't have time to get involved in this debate, but by the looks of it, you guys don't need my opinion anyway!
The Commentator: thank ya'll for your input on this!
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